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AHIST_1401_Art_History_Discussion_Forum_Unit_5 AHIST 1401 Art History - Term 4, 2018-2019 HOME CONTACT US RESOURCES LINKS FACULTY MY COURSES MENU       AHIST 1401 Art History - ... Term 4, 2018-2019 Search forums Propaganda in Neoclassical and Romantic Art by Melissa Anderson (Instructor) - Tuesday, 9 April 2019, 9:24 PM Both Neoclassical and Romantic art were used as ways for governments, institutions and individuals to convey their messages. Which of these two styles do you think is better at getting a message across? How is that style eàective? What characteristics help the viewer understand the intent of the image? Please refer to one or more speciÕc images in your discussion. As always, you may wish to include your image to help your classmates respond to your post. 77 words Permalink | Reply Re: Propaganda in Neoclassical and Romantic Art5/15/2019 AHIST 1401 - AY2019-T4: Propaganda in Neoclassical and Romantic Art https://my.uopeople.edu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=208606 2/33 by Mauro Cimellaro - Thursday, 9 May 2019, 12:23 PM Which of these two styles do you think is better at getting a message across? When we talk about art, we must keep in mind that perceptions are something very subjective. Considering my personal inclinations, I would say that between the two styles proposed, what strikes me most is certainly that of the romantic period. I consider myself (and I am considered by those around me) a fairly pragmatic and practical person. I hardly stop to look for hidden meanings in things, so dark and tragic paintings such as the oath of the Horatii of Jacques-Louis David would be for me a dark and dark picture. Probably I would Õnd it tiring and I would pass into a museum. Of course this is just a personal opinion. I'm sure others would see meanings that escape me. Personally, instead, I found myself fascinated by Liberty Leading the People painted by Eugène Delacroix compared to David's magniÕcent paintings. Yet, even though I consider both extremely beautiful, I seem to read a deeper meaning (for me) from the romantic era.5/15/2019 AHIST 1401 - AY2019-T4: Propaganda in Neoclassical and Romantic Art https://my.uopeople.edu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=208606 3/33 How is that style eàective? I am convinced (also because of my personal experience) that the romantic style is so fascinating and grandiose that it attracts attention even to those who are not strictly interested in art. Anyone would be enchanted by this style. Moreover, despite what I said earlier, I must say that even the darkest paintings of the period, those made with opaque colors such as portraits of patients with mental illnesses by Théodore Géricaul, have captured me more than many other works. It is certainly undeniable that the art of the period is extremely linked to realism. In fact, to the ideal Õgures of the neoclassical period (muscular and angular men, Öorid women and graceful curves), much more human and less idealized Õgures are replaced. What characteristics help the viewer understand the intent of the image?5/15/2019 AHIST 1401 - AY2019-T4: Propaganda in Neoclassical and Romantic Art https://my.uopeople.edu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=208606 4/33 If we stop to examine Eugène Delacroix's Liberty Leading the People, we will understand the meaning of having kept this work hidden from the masses. The message that transpires is certainly strong today, but in the past it had to be even more exploding (given the period of great historical and political changes). We have Liberty that grabs the Öag of France and pushes through the bodies. His robe is torn as he makes this gesture, and this gives the measure of strength and determination to change. It is undoubtedly a work capable of infusing the spectator with all the ardor of a revolutionary period. In the painting we can also observe several people dressed in diàerent clothes who are dying on the ground or who are in serious condition. The meaning is to tell, through art, how all social classes have suàered the guerrilla warfare due to the revolution. However, the deeper meaning of the painting seems to be to make justice and equity desirable, concepts so desired and for which the people have fought hard. Despite the suàering endured, the goal is to have created a better future and a more just policy for all.5/15/2019 AHIST 1401 - AY2019-T4: Propaganda in Neoclassical and Romantic Art https://my.uopeople.edu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=208606 5/33 Word Count: 513 References: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_of_the_Horatii#/media/File:JacquesLouis_David,_Le_Serment_des_Horaces.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_Leading_the_People#/media/File:Eug%C _Le_28_Juillet._La_Libert%C3%A9_guidant_le_peuple.jpg5/15/2019 AHIST 1401 - AY2019-T4: Propaganda in Neoclassical and Romantic Art https://my.uopeople.edu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=208606 6/33 Pollitt, B.. Géricault, Portraits of the Insane. In Khan Academy. Retrieved July 20, 2015, from https://www.khanacademy.org/humanities/becomingmodern/romanticism/romanticism-in-france/a/gricault-portraits-of-theinsane. 586 words Rate: 10 Permalink | Show parent | Reply Re: Propaganda in Neoclassical and Romantic Art by Melissa Anderson (Instructor) - Monday, 13 May 2019, 4:25 PM Hi Mauro, You explained well your preference for Romantic art. I tend to agree that there is a softness and more emotional connection to be made, as opposed to the strong formal compositions of Neoclassicism. I also think that the style that a person is drawn to relies heavily on their experience with art. At the time these works were done, they would have most likely appealed to either one group or another. Being viewed in the present context, they are also compared with all that has come since, so I think there is a willingness to embrace the emotional context of Romantic art over Neoclassicism. You did very well in your analysis of Liberty Leading the People. I like that you addressed the symbolic references that would have spoken to the viewer of the period. Please remember to capitalize the names of movements in the future. Thank you, Melissa 150 words Permalink | Show parent | Reply Re: Propaganda in Neoclassical and Romantic Art by Mauro Bennici - Tuesday, 14 May 2019, 9:53 AM Hi Mauro, of the framework Liberty Leading the People I also like the background. One sees palaces, which could be the district of the Bastille, as a counter-stand of Neoclassicism and its perfect "temples".5/15/2019 AHIST 1401 - AY2019-T4: Propaganda in Neoclassical and Romantic Art https://my.uopeople.edu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=208606 7/33 34 words Permalink | Show parent | Reply Re: Propaganda in Neoclassical and Romantic Art by Adil Khan - Wednesday, 15 May 2019, 12:31 AM Hi, Great response to the discussion. Your opinion is similar to all in the post on romantic era sending out a clear message. Your reference was a good read, good job. 31 words Permalink | Show parent | Reply Re: Propaganda in Neoclassical and Romantic Art by Omar Al Azzi - Saturday, 11 May 2019, 10:36 AM Both of those two styles are eàective styles in showing messages. it depends on what the messages and the audience are. Both of the Neoclassical and Romantic styles have diàerent characteristics. Romanticism styles it's emotionless and it's full brilliant colors, it has brushstrokes, and it cares about imagination using emotions. in my opinion, it's more appropriate in conveying messages for individuals due to what it has personals feelings.5/15/2019 AHIST 1401 - AY2019-T4: Propaganda in Neoclassical and Romantic Art https://my.uopeople.edu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=208606 8/33 John Constable, The Hay Wain, 1821 While the Neoclassical looks more serious and eàective for the institutional and governmental messages, it seems colder and less emotional, it has clear shows and lines, sober colors, and classical subject, and it's not included brushstrokes and should be cerebral not sensual.5/15/2019 AHIST 1401 - AY2019-T4: Propaganda in Neoclassical and Romantic Art https://my.uopeople.edu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=208606 9/33 Jacques-Louis David, Oath of the Horatii, 1784 (salon of 1785) oil on canvas, 3.3 x 4.25m (Louvre) References: Neoclassicism, an introduction. (n.d.). Retrieved from https://www.khanacademy.org/humanities/monarchy-enlightenment/neoclassicism/a/neoclassicism-an-introduction Romanticism in France. (n.d.). Retrieved from https://www.khanacademy.org/humanities/becomingmodern/romanticism/romanticism-in-france/a/romanticism-in-france Romanticism - Important Art. (n.d.). Retrieved from https://www.theartstory.org/movement-romanticism-artworks.htm#pnt_8 179 words Rate: Rate... Permalink | Show parent | Reply Re: Propaganda in Neoclassical and Romantic Art5/15/2019 AHIST 1401 - AY2019-T4: Propaganda in Neoclassical and Romantic Art https://my.uopeople.edu/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=208606 10/33 by Melissa Anderson (Instructor) - Monday, 13 May 2019, 4:28 PM Hi Omar, While brief, your post eàectively identiÕes the ways in which the two movements would be eàective at relating their propaganda messages. You identify the target audience of Neoclassicism as being more institutional or related to the government. Who do you think the Romantic messages would speak to eàectively? Best, Melissa - - - - - Continued [Show More]

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